[ Cisco can tell that Tony's question is meant to be rhetorical, but he answers anyway - he wants to put Tony's vague dismissiveness in perspective, both to show that it was not really anything out of the ordinary, and to show that it was a much milder form than he is sadly pretty used to. ]
Let's just say there've been a lot of people over the years who didn't think a guy named Ramon had any place being a mechanical engineer or working at a place like S.T.A.R. Labs, and a few of them got pretty invested in seeing me fail.
[ Hartley Rathaway being, of course, the number one culprit. He'd always been ready for Cisco to make any mistake, watching him all the time, interfering constantly, cracking snide just-that-side-of-offensive jokes, and generally making a nuisance out of himself. Then again... Cisco gets it, now. Dr. Wells manipulated both of them, pitted them against each other so they would compete and strive harder than was healthy, and to divert their attention from him and what he was up to...
When Tony asks about the things he'd forgotten, Cisco drops his gaze, twisting the stem of his cocktail glass between his fingers and generally looking uncomfortable. But he knows how it goes. If he wants to encourage Tony to feel like he can talk about stuff, he has to put his money where his mouth is and talk a little too. Clearing his throat, he says: ]
Yeah. Just the stuff about that guy I mentioned. Didn't forget him entirely, just the super fun second half of the story where instead of being a totally awesome mentor he was actually an evil murderer from the future who betrayed all of us and tore my heart to pieces literally.
[ He says all of it in a rush, with an overly bright tone of voice, like he can make it not awful by just saying it as if it were a joke. But there's no amount of shrugging and trying to smile is gonna make that one not sting, especially not when it all feels so weirdly fresh from re-remembering it. Cisco takes a significantly bigger gulp of his cocktail, not bothering to savor it this time. Maybe that had been an overshare, but he'd spent a whole week saying nice shit about Eobard and it feels only right to cancel it out by saying the bad stuff, now.]
Why couldn't it have been something good, like- like forgetting they ever made that live action Avatar movie? Sign me up for that selective amnesia.
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Let's just say there've been a lot of people over the years who didn't think a guy named Ramon had any place being a mechanical engineer or working at a place like S.T.A.R. Labs, and a few of them got pretty invested in seeing me fail.
[ Hartley Rathaway being, of course, the number one culprit. He'd always been ready for Cisco to make any mistake, watching him all the time, interfering constantly, cracking snide just-that-side-of-offensive jokes, and generally making a nuisance out of himself. Then again... Cisco gets it, now. Dr. Wells manipulated both of them, pitted them against each other so they would compete and strive harder than was healthy, and to divert their attention from him and what he was up to...
When Tony asks about the things he'd forgotten, Cisco drops his gaze, twisting the stem of his cocktail glass between his fingers and generally looking uncomfortable. But he knows how it goes. If he wants to encourage Tony to feel like he can talk about stuff, he has to put his money where his mouth is and talk a little too. Clearing his throat, he says: ]
Yeah. Just the stuff about that guy I mentioned. Didn't forget him entirely, just the super fun second half of the story where instead of being a totally awesome mentor he was actually an evil murderer from the future who betrayed all of us and tore my heart to pieces literally.
[ He says all of it in a rush, with an overly bright tone of voice, like he can make it not awful by just saying it as if it were a joke. But there's no amount of shrugging and trying to smile is gonna make that one not sting, especially not when it all feels so weirdly fresh from re-remembering it. Cisco takes a significantly bigger gulp of his cocktail, not bothering to savor it this time. Maybe that had been an overshare, but he'd spent a whole week saying nice shit about Eobard and it feels only right to cancel it out by saying the bad stuff, now.]
Why couldn't it have been something good, like- like forgetting they ever made that live action Avatar movie? Sign me up for that selective amnesia.