"Turns out it is just a machine. It will grind us down and discard us. We don't matter." It's easier to talk about. Not that she thinks it's going to offer her much of a reprieve, but she doesn't feel as compelled to talk when he's also talking. She just needs to wait for him to give in. She can do that.

She hopes she can, anyway. It's not easy. "If you stay standing up for much longer, I'm pretty sure i'm going to try and hook your feet out from under you."