Yeah, it's sadly not that easy, at home. The communities are too big. There are systems in place would the parents not be around, but it's... not great, for the kids.

[ He's been lucky, with that. Looking at Lorna, who didn't know her dad, Marcos, who'd been kicked out, or Clarice, bouncing from home to home until she found one that'd accept who she was... he'd been lucky.

Athelstan's next word do bring out a sharp laugh from John. ]

Yeah, I - I appreciate that. I don't know how to uncomplicate things, but I think... I think she and I might be okay.